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Hi all,
First time posting after I cam across Blackjack Plus at Crown Casino in Melbourne, Australia.
Blackjack in Australia usually has a very low house edge (no hole card is the main reason for this), but I came across 'Blackjack Plus' which seems to have a few rules changes in favour of the player.
Anyhow, the main differences to the rules appear to primarily favourable to the player, but I've no idea how to calculate the change to the house edge.
Official rules found here:
Main differences from normal 'Crown Blackjack' are:
Player wins on 21 regardless of Dealer's card.
Player wins on any 5 card hand totalling 21 or less
Player can double up on any 2 or 3 card hand
If Dealer hits 22 and Player is less than 21, it's a standoff (neither win nor lose...US use a different term, right?).
Eight decks used and blackjack pays 3 to 2.
So....What's the edge using basic strategy?
First time posting after I cam across Blackjack Plus at Crown Casino in Melbourne, Australia.
Blackjack in Australia usually has a very low house edge (no hole card is the main reason for this), but I came across 'Blackjack Plus' which seems to have a few rules changes in favour of the player.
Anyhow, the main differences to the rules appear to primarily favourable to the player, but I've no idea how to calculate the change to the house edge.
Official rules found here:
Main differences from normal 'Crown Blackjack' are:
Player wins on 21 regardless of Dealer's card.
Player wins on any 5 card hand totalling 21 or less
Player can double up on any 2 or 3 card hand
If Dealer hits 22 and Player is less than 21, it's a standoff (neither win nor lose...US use a different term, right?).
Eight decks used and blackjack pays 3 to 2.
So....What's the edge using basic strategy?
- It's challenging, exciting and easy to play. The object of the game is to beat the dealer by drawing cards with a combined total closer to 21 than the dealer’s cards. Avoid going over 21 to stay in the game. A Blackjack is when the first two cards dealt to you are an Ace and a card with the value of ten.
- Blackjack plus: Dealer stands on a hard or soft 17, stand off on 22, Payout on 5 cards and under or 21, payout on black. Crown Blackjack (Normal Black Jack): Dealer must hit on soft 17 and stand on a hard 17. Blackjack (traditional) Dealer stands on soft or hard 17. Source: Ama Blackjack dealer at Crown.
JB
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The house edge is somewhere between 5% and 5.5% depending on whether or not the dealer hits soft 17, and that's assuming perfect play with the entire shoe being reshuffled after each hand, both of which are unlikely.
The push-on-22 rule is the one that damages the game, because its effect on the house edge significantly outweighs the effects of the player-friendly rules. A better name for the game would be 'Blackjack Minus'.
The push-on-22 rule is the one that damages the game, because its effect on the house edge significantly outweighs the effects of the player-friendly rules. A better name for the game would be 'Blackjack Minus'.
jeanesmith
Interesting odds here. I just hoped that things would be well, as well as making it happen and make all things good and well in the long run. Thanks for the insights that you have given!
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FleaStiff
If Dealer hits 22 and Player is less than 21, it's a standoff (neither win nor lose...US use a different term, right?).
Rather than 'standoff' we often use the term 'push' which is probably a bit less confrontational sounding than 'standoff'.
The term 'push' may appear to be more pleasant and the rule itself may appear to be innocuous but appearances are deceptive.
I recently visited a casino that had two separate Blackjack Pits... one was 6:5 and hit soft 17, the other was 3:2, did not hit 17 and did not allow any midshoe entry. The two separate rule sets were clearly indicated by major signage and minor signage at each table.
I wonder if your Crown Casino should be improving its signage?
Wizard
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Sorry to wake up a three-year-old thread but I saw this game in New Zealand so of course had to analyze it. Fortunately, it is similar to Blackjack Challenge, which I saw in Sydney, that I also just analyzed. Administrator
Please see my new page on Blackjack Plus. As my loyal guinea pigs, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Uranium235
Thanks a lot Wizard
I will be at Crown next week but will definitely stick to the regular BJ tables which are unfortunately hard to find nowadays. If anyone is planning a trip, they are mainly down the hotel end near the Atrium Bar which is actually quite a nice atmosphere to have a bet. There are also a few tables in the Maple Room: it's higher limit with free drinks the last time I visited with no requirement for entry except some good cash. The table minimums are AUD 30-40 depending on the day but is becoming less and less in USD by the day too!
Crown has H17 unless you're in a very high limit room but I do prefer the ambience at Crown compared to my local (Star in Sydney) that has S17 rules.
Cheers,
U235
I will be at Crown next week but will definitely stick to the regular BJ tables which are unfortunately hard to find nowadays. If anyone is planning a trip, they are mainly down the hotel end near the Atrium Bar which is actually quite a nice atmosphere to have a bet. There are also a few tables in the Maple Room: it's higher limit with free drinks the last time I visited with no requirement for entry except some good cash. The table minimums are AUD 30-40 depending on the day but is becoming less and less in USD by the day too!
Crown has H17 unless you're in a very high limit room but I do prefer the ambience at Crown compared to my local (Star in Sydney) that has S17 rules.
Cheers,
U235
Wizard
Administrator
Administrator
Thanks a lot Wizard
I will be at Crown next week but will definitely stick to the regular BJ tables which are unfortunately hard to find nowadays.
You're welcome. As long as you're there, can you tell me what the Blackjack Plus rules are down there. In particular:
1. What happens if the player splits/doubles and the dealer gets a blackjack. They may tell you 'the player loses his original bet only,' but what about any busted bets from splitting?
2. Can the player double on soft totals?
3. How many hands can the player re-split to? What about aces?
Thanks!
Mike
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Uranium235
No problems; I will drop past a quiet table and have a chat with them.
Uranium235
You're welcome. As long as you're there, can you tell me what the Blackjack Plus rules are down there. In particular:
1. What happens if the player splits/doubles and the dealer gets a blackjack. They may tell you 'the player loses his original bet only,' but what about any busted bets from splitting?
2. Can the player double on soft totals?
3. How many hands can the player re-split to? What about aces?
Thanks!
Mike
Ok folks I've just done some investigative journalism on the gaming floor and the good folks tell me the following rules in place for Blackjack Plus:
Blackjack pays 3/2
OBBO rule is in place (i.e. if the dealer gets blackjack, they will only take your original bet and leave any remaining bets from splits and doubles. However, if you split and bust, you lose that cash regardless)
Double on any two or three cards
Las Vegas Casino Blackjack Rules
Split twice (i.e. Up to three hands) but only once with acesRules For Blackjack
No surrenderStand on any 17 including soft.
Glorious weather here today in Melbourne
Cheers
Smartfart
The game known as Blackjack Plus comes in three variants. The difference is in blackjack payouts: 3-2, 6-5, or even money.
In New Zealand, the rules are same for all three variants: dealer hits soft 17; pushes all bets on total of 22; blackjack, a total of 21 and five-card charlie pay out immediately (regardless of dealer's card); split up to twice (create three hands), split aces receive one card only; double down on any two cards; no surrender.
Also, player with a blackjack can't place an insurance bet (insurance still pays 2-1).
Any other questions about this variant, just ask!
In New Zealand, the rules are same for all three variants: dealer hits soft 17; pushes all bets on total of 22; blackjack, a total of 21 and five-card charlie pay out immediately (regardless of dealer's card); split up to twice (create three hands), split aces receive one card only; double down on any two cards; no surrender.
Also, player with a blackjack can't place an insurance bet (insurance still pays 2-1).
Any other questions about this variant, just ask!
Crown Casino Melbourne Blackjack Rules
Hello Guys,
I've been browsing this forum for a couple of months and have finally decided to create an account. I realise that the Australian segment of forum has a tendency to be sporadic with its posts and responses, so I'm not holding out too much hope for responses but I'll give this a go anyway. I was at crown 4 days ago in the main room and they were still using shoes with a $25 minimum and a max bet of $600 ( Max of $200 per box per player and each player can play 3 boxes). I was just Wonging in and out with the count and nobody seemed to care (bear in mind this was early in a weekday so the place was far from busy), I went back yesterday to find that all of the $25 up tables on the main floor are now using CSMs. My first question is: Is there any rooms at Crown Casino which silver members can access that still have shoe games? The second being if there is a viable room is there anybody from Melbourne that would be interested in starting up a team or looking for an additional member?
Thanks,
Rory
I've been browsing this forum for a couple of months and have finally decided to create an account. I realise that the Australian segment of forum has a tendency to be sporadic with its posts and responses, so I'm not holding out too much hope for responses but I'll give this a go anyway. I was at crown 4 days ago in the main room and they were still using shoes with a $25 minimum and a max bet of $600 ( Max of $200 per box per player and each player can play 3 boxes). I was just Wonging in and out with the count and nobody seemed to care (bear in mind this was early in a weekday so the place was far from busy), I went back yesterday to find that all of the $25 up tables on the main floor are now using CSMs. My first question is: Is there any rooms at Crown Casino which silver members can access that still have shoe games? The second being if there is a viable room is there anybody from Melbourne that would be interested in starting up a team or looking for an additional member?
Thanks,
Rory